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                      FEMA Press Briefing on Gustav
TITLE:                   August 30, 2008 FEME Teleconference

TOPIC (if needed):       Hurrican Gustav

DATE:                    August 30, 2008

LENGTH:                  38 minutes

PARTICIPANTS:            R. David Paulison, Administrator, FEMA
                         Brian Montgomery, Assistant Secretary & Federal Housing
                                 Commissioner, U.S. Housing & Urban Development
                         Joe Becker, Senior Vice President of Disaster Services,
                                 American Red Cross
                         Sandy K. Baruah, Acting Administrator, U.S. Small Business
                                 Administration
                         Rear Admiral W. Craig Vanderwagen, Assistant Secretary
                                 for Preparedness & Response, U.S. Department of
                                        Healthy & Human Services
                         Bill Irwin, FEMA Liaison, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers

ABBREVIATIONS:           [U/I] = Unintelligible
                         [PH] = Phonetic Spelling


     Speaker                                   Transcription

R. David             Well, good afternoon. And welcome. A couple of things have
Paulison[?]:
                     happened in the last, actually the last few minutes. I just talked

                     to Bill Reed[PH] from the Hurricane Center and they have

                     upgraded Hurricane Gustav to a Category 5 store as it goes into

                     Cuba. He did not expect that going across Cuba is going to have

                     a major affect on the storm and came out the other side because

                     it's going across a very narrow part of the island.




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So we're dealing with a very, very serious storm. I was down in

the Gulf Coast yesterday with the Secretary. I met with the

Governor of Louisiana, Mayor Nagin, some of the Parish

presidents. I went over to Mississippi. I met with the Mayor, with

the Governor. There was also the State Emergency Manager. A

couple of elected officials.



I've been very, very pleased with the preparation that I saw.

Much, much different than we saw three years ago. The

partnership we've developed, not only with the people who stand

on this stage, but the partnership we developed with the states

and the local communities. They've been invaluable getting

ready for this particular type of storm.



We have changed the culture of this organization. We have

gone from a reactive organization and how FEMA was designed

to a proactive organization. We saw, very clearly, in Katrina that

the reactive part of that does not work. Leaning much, much far

forward, the things that you're seeing now, that you saw

happening prior to Gustav making landfall did not happen until

after Katrina hit landfall. The buses for evacuations did not arrive

till after Katrina made landfall. The ambulances that transport



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people out of harms way were not activated until after Katrina

made landfall. Urban support rescue teams and I can go on and

on with all the things we're seeing now, including commodities

that did not happen till after landfall.



So what you see now in proactive organization with hundreds of

buses already there making transport out of the city. We've

already moved over 1,000 people by train from New Orleans to

Memphis. The first three busloads of people have just arrived at

the airport to transport out. There's already aircraft on the

ground, in fact, they arrived early. They've been transporting

people out. So between the buses, the trains and the aircraft,

there is no reason, no reason for anyone in the city of New

Orleans to ride out this storm. It is simply too dangerous a

storm. We are encouraging everyone to heed the Mayor's

warning, to heed the Governor's warning and evacuate out of the

city because we don't want to see anybody in harm's way.



We cannot stop the damage from happening. We can't control

the path of the hurricane. But what we can do, what we can

clearly do, is move people out of harm's way and make sure that

they're going to be safe so when they can return home in a few



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                    days they'll have their lives. So I want to thank you for being

                    here and I'll let my colleagues move on. I guess, Joe, are you

                    next? At the end of the day we'll answer any questions you

                    might have.

Brian Montgomery:   Good afternoon. I'm Brian Montgomery, the Federal Housing

                    Commissioner at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban

                    Development. Our number one priority at HUB is to make sure

                    FEMA and states know that they have our full support. In New

                    Orleans we are assisting HUD assisted families that are currently

                    evacuating. We have HUD staff set up at the Disaster Housing

                    Assistance Center in Houston, Texas and have the ability to

                    relocate to the city the Memphis should the hurricane make a

                    turn westward.



                    The Housing Authority of New Orleans, also known as HANO

                    and HUD staff are currently going door-to-door reaching out to

                    citizens, especially senior citizens and persons with disabilities to

                    alert them about the bus and train evacuation schedule. And to

                    encourage folks who need help evacuating to call the city's

                    emergency 311 number.



                    I also want to remind the mortgage lending community that HUD



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              will establish a 90 day foreclosure moratorium on properties in

              presidentially declared disaster areas. Under the moratorium

              lenders may not initiate new foreclosure actions nor continue the

              processing of foreclosures already underway. The purpose of a

              moratorium is to give affected families an opportunity to assess

              their situations and to take appropriate actions to get their lives

              back on track. We recognize that families may need to deal with

              damage to their homes, or perhaps temporary breaks in

              employment or other types of disruptions. And we want to make

              sure that we support them in making arrangements and taking

              care of their homes, their families and their finances.



              In closing those of us at HUD remain in close contact with FEMA

              and other federal partners, local emergency management

              agencies as well regarding housing solutions, mission

              assignments, program areas specific questions and are prepared

              to ship staff and resources accordingly. Thank you very much.

Joe Becker:   I'm Joe Becker and I lead the American Red Cross Disaster

              relief. I'm here to speak for what the Red Cross is doing today

              and will be doing in the next years, but I'm also here to speak on

              behalf of the non-profit sector that's working hard in this relief

              effort.



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What your seeing today is the opening of evacuation shelters. In

the four states in the cone area or outside the Red Cross is

prepared to open about 600 shelters than can handle 143,000

people. These are simply safe places to be during the storm.

Evacuations are also happening much further north of those four

states and we have tremendous capacity there that will come

online as needed.



Once the storm passes and people come out to see if they're

able to return home, that's when a subset of the evacuation

shelters become citizen shelters. That becomes the place where

people live for a number of days until we can find other

accommodations for them. These are where you'll see the cots

and the blankets and the nurses and the Red Cross volunteers

and the community coming together to take care of these people.



We will operate as many of those shelters as are needed. And

our partners will be there with us to do that. In the next days as

roads open and communities become accessible, that's when

you'll see hundreds of teams from the American Red Cross fan

out into the affected area, into the neighborhoods. They're



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driving through those communities with food, with supplies, with

things people need to clean up their home. Mental health

support. Things people need to start to move on.



They'll also see a set of fixed sites, community by community,

were people can come to pick up those supplies and get a meal,

and take what they need and then share with their neighbors.

Because of where the storm is heading and because of who

we're looking at being affected and in harm's way, we're focusing

very hard on our mental health preparations and deploying large

numbers of mental health professionals to help these people.

They'll be in our shelters. They'll be in our service sites. We

want to be there for people who have already seen what awful

looks like.



And we continue to reach out to other organizations to join the

response. And we want to support their efforts in doing so. A

key issue we have continues to be in the state of Louisiana

where we've been asked by the state and emergency

management to open 107 shelters for 40,000 people. The Red

Cross and its partners has the supplies and has the people to

open more shelters. These are pre-identified buildings. The



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limiting factor here is the availability of those buildings. These

are typically schools, civic centers, community buildings that are

used as shelters.



The Parishes are working very hard right now at freeing up every

last building possible and the state is working feverishly with

local government to do that. FEMA is hard at work at this and

we appreciate your support. We've got to take care as many

people as we can as close to what used to be home as possible.



Once the decisions are made to bring additional buildings online,

we are ready to move in. Our people are there, our partners are

ready and our supplies are in place. We need the permission to

operate and when it's granted we'll move in quickly.



In the last days we've shared what we've done to move our

people and move our supplies. And I won't go into those

numbers again. In addition to our hundreds of local volunteers in

harm's way, we've added a first wave of over 3,000 volunteers.

Two-thirds of our fleet is either now in the Gulf or on it's way to

the Gulf. And with our partners, particularly the Southern

Baptists, we have in place what it takes to feed 600,000 meals a



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                   day. We're ready on a scale for a major, major event. And we

                   have the supplies and commodities and with FEMA's support

                   we're ready to go bigger than that if we need to.



                   We've begun the sheltering today and our work is going to

                   continue for the next weeks and months responding to this

                   storm. And I do want to say thank you. Thank you to the many,

                   many Americans who want to help these people. Who see how

                   important it is to take care of people like this, at a time like this

                   and make the Red Cross disaster work possible. Thank you very

                   much.

Sandy K. Baruah:   Good afternoon. I'm Sandy Baruah with the Small Business

                   Administration. The Small Business Administration is not a first

                   responder agency, but given the critical role the SBA plays in

                   economic recovery we are actively and closely engaged with

                   FEMA, state and other Federal entities in response to this

                   pending storm.



                   SBA, along with our sister Federal agencies have overhauled our

                   processes and our response protocols to be much more forward

                   leaning in the days ahead. We had learned important lessons

                   from the 2005 hurricanes and were are prepared to effectively



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execute our mission to support the post disaster economic

recovery needs.



Since those days back in 2005 and Katrina, the Small Business

Administration has improved and streamlined our disaster

application and our approval processes. We've upgraded our

disaster system technology infrastructure which will allow

thousands of more concurrent users. We have added over

200,000 square feet of space in order to handle surge

processing capabilities during a disaster situation.



We've implemented an online disaster application for victims

wanting to access SBA loan programs after a disaster. We've

expanded our disaster response workforce including 2,000

reserve employees ready to jump into action if needed. And

we've established a new executive office of disaster strategic

and planning operations led by Navy Retired Rear Admiral Steve

Smith to improve not only our internal coordination's at SBA but

also our coordination with our Federal partners and with state

and local governance.



SBA is coordinated with FEMA and the states and we have



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already prepositioned employees in the region and we are ready

to work side-by-side with FEMA and others to conduct the

preliminary damage assessments. That will be an important first

step after the storm passes.



I was just in Louisiana and Florida as well as our SBA

Operations Center in Atlanta just in the days past to ensure that

our SBA team members have the tools that they need in order to

be responsive to the people that they will serve.



As I said, the Small Business Administration is not a first

responder agency, but we do play a critical role in economic

recovery. I want to stress you do not have to be a small

business to take advantage of SBA's disaster programs. We will

have low interest loan programs for businesses of all sizes, for

homeowners, for renters and for non-profit organizations and we

have press packages available for all of you that detail these

various programs.



Let me close by stressing the message of my Federal colleagues

here today. Now is the time for preparation. For yourself. For

your family. For your loved ones. For your pets. For your vital



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                  records and so on. A hurricane or even a tropical storm can

                  create tremendous damage and our first concern of all of us is

                  the protection of human live and in helping those affected with

                  their recovery ahead. Thank you.

Rear Admiral W.   Good afternoon. I'm Craig Vanderwagen. I'm with Health and
Craig
Vanderwagen:      Human Services. We are active in response operations today

                  with a number of general direction and guidance of FEMA. We

                  have a significant commitment to the liaisons of Federal, state

                  and local operation centers across the Gulf, from Florida to

                  Texas, and we are in continual contact with our state public

                  health and medical emergency counterparts at that level.



                  We have received requests from Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi

                  and Alabama to assist with evacuations of patients with special

                  medical needs. And to provide care for evacuated patients. And

                  to that end we are work with DOD to provide air evacuation of

                  about 500 critical care patients in Texas and an estimated 400

                  critical care patients by air from Louisiana.



                  These began today. Patient will be evacuated to health care

                  facilities not only within Texas and Louisiana, far above the

                  slosh, but to Arkansas, Oklahoma and other locations. Our goal



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is to get appropriate definitive care to people that have been

evacuated who have critical care needs.



In addition we're working with FEMA, DOD and the DA to assist

the states in evacuation of people with special medical needs

including those in nursing homes. There are over 103 nursing

homes below I10, between Texas and Mississippi and Louisiana

alone. A significant number of those will be effected by the

slosh, the news that Chief Paulison reported to you will up the

number of those facilities that will need evacuation assistance.

However, we have 7,000 Para transit seats available. We have

buses for the ambulatory and we have a significant number of

ambulances to meet that need.



We have caches of medical supplies in place. We have 1,000

personnel, medical and public health personnel in the Gulf states

today to augment local capability. Today we have opened a

Federal medical station at LSU at the field house to provide low

intensity hospital care. We are working in Alexandria for a

similar capability. We will work to support the sheltering

populations that are provided care through the Red Cross and

with our FEMA and Human Services partners in our department.



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                     We will pilot test a Human Services Case Management Program

                     based on what we've learned in Katrina. This will allow us to

                     coordinate with states and connect individuals with special needs

                     to the social services and benefits package for which they're

                     eligible following a disaster, including child care and other

                     services. Additional public health teams from CDC are alerted

                     and prepared to move to support potential vector borne[PH]

                     disease prevention and other public health issues. And lastly

                     teams from HHS Human Services Agencies working with our

                     FEMA and Red Cross colleagues are moving to support the

                     needs of special populations including our American Indian

                     populations in this area.



                     We urge all in the Gulf zone to honor the guidance that is being

                     provided to you to depart. We are seeing active movement in

                     the general population and I'm pleased to say we're moving

                     aggressively to assure that special needs medical populations

                     are being moved to safe places where they can receive the care

                     they need. Thank you.

R. David Paulison:   Thank you. I think what you can see is a different type of

                     response than we saw in Katrina. You're seeing a partnership,



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                     not only at the Federal level but also at the state and local level.

                     As I talk to all the governors from Texas to Florida, they're all

                     talking with each other. Sharing information. They know they

                     have to coordinate together. The contraflow that's going to start

                     tomorrow morning from Louisiana will require cooperation with

                     Mississippi and cooperation with Texas to make sure that those

                     roads will accommodate contraflow. I know the governors are

                     already talking back and forth and have been for several days.



                     They were as prepared as they possibly can be. And I'm very

                     proud of what I've seen going on. I've seen the difference and

                     change in attitude from three years ago. So what I'd like to do is

                     answer any questions and ... yes?

Unidentified         Just one quick question.
Reporter:
R. David Paulison:   You've got to really speak up because I can't hear over the

                     [Inaudible]. (Laughs)

Unidentified Male:   And then identify the organization.

Kate Volden[PH]:     Of course. Kate Volden with CNN. Just one quick clarification

                     before my question. The last we had heard was that it's still a

                     Category 4. You said Category 5 hurricane. I wanted to make

                     sure that was ... it was not a mis(sic).

R. David Paulison:   That's correct. As we're in the middle ­ right in the middle of our



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                     Teleconference now, every afternoon we have a Teleconference

                     with all of the states and the Hurricane Center and all of our

                     players, the Red Cross and all the people you see up here. And

                     Bill Reed got up in the middle, that interrupted it, and said they

                     had just upped the category to a Category 5 storm. That puts a

                     different light on our evacuations. And hopefully that will send a

                     very clear message to the people in the Gulf Coast to really pay

                     attention and if they're in the evacuation zone they really need to

                     move out and move out very quickly.

Kate Volden:         My question: For people, and you did talk about it in this press

                     conference, people who know awful. People who have gone

                     through a lot and feel in the Gulf Coast that they've been let

                     down by the Federal government over and over again. Why, Mr.

                     Paulison, should they believe, FEMA ­ should they believe you

                     this time?

R. David Paulison:   Well, I don't know if they should believe me or not, they should

                     pay attention to what we're doing. The most important thing right

                     now is to take care of themselves and their family. And the best

                     thing they can do is evacuate out of harm's way. We are

                     providing a different type of response. And if you talk to the

                     people down there, if you talk to the governors and talk to the

                     local emergency managers, they are truly seeing a different



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                     Federal, state and local response than they've seen in the past.



                     This is the big culture change. There's no question about it. It's

                     a big shift in how we respond to disasters. We are not going to

                     be reactive anymore. We are going to be proactive. We have

                     been down there and we're going to stay down there. We

                     already had moved in everything in ahead of time. You didn't

                     see buses on the ground prior to Katrina. You didn't see

                     ambulances on the ground prior to Katrina. You didn't see this

                     partnership that we have prior to Katrina. And took those

                     lessons very seriously. A lot of people lost their lives. And we

                     simply don't want that to happen again. So we changed what

                     we're doing.



                     And I'm not asking for people to believe me. I'm asking them to

                     watch and see what we're doing. Yes, Ma'am?

Ann Turner[PH]:      Ann Turner, NBC. What method is being used to make sure that

                     they're in the disaster area or being in harm's way. And also

                     where are the people, particularly from New Orleans and other

                     places being bused to once they get on a bus or a train. Where

                     are they moved to?

R. David Paulison:   First of all the word is going out through the media. The word is



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going out ... the governor is making press conference

announcements. The mayors, the parish presidents are. The

local and community leaders are doing the same thing now over

and over again. You know if you live in the city of New Orleans

you have to evacuate because you're in a bowl. And despite the

fact that the Corps of Engineers has done a yeoman's job of

preparing those levees, there's still a lot weaknesses there. It's

still not where they need to be. So we want everyone to

evacuate out of there. There are several cities, dozens of cities

that we're moving people to.



A lot of them are moving inside of New Orleans. We're moving

some people to Memphis by train. Airplanes are going to Texas.

Airplanes are going to other cities around the country to make

sure that we have every opportunity for people to evacuate.

Most people are evacuating themselves. I know you've seen

them, I know you watched it already, I watched your show years

ago showing the traffic going out of New Orleans. But a lot of

people don't have that type of transportation. So what we've

done is made sure that there are no excuses. There are buses

on the ground. We have trains on the ground. We have

airplanes to move people. The first three loads busloads of



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                 people just arrived at the airport to move out and they'll be

                 loading those planes in just a few minutes.



                 The first train has already left with 1,020 people on it and they're

                 loading another train. So we moved about 3,000 people to

                 Memphis. Texas has taken about 45,000 people by self

                 evacuation and we're going to airlift another 10,000 in. So a lot

                 of cities and a lot of state have stepped up to the plate to help us

                 with this evacuation.



                 Now, also what's in place is the shelters have already been pre-

                 identified. And when they arrive there, there's buses already

                 there to take them to the shelters. So it's not the hodge podge of

                 what we saw during Katrina. It's a very organization type of

                 mission. Now there's going to be glitches. There's no question

                 about it. You're moving that many people and it's something that

                 you don't do every day, there's going to be bumps in the road.

                 It's how quick we fix those and how we come across those

                 glitches, we'll fix them very fast. Yes, Ma'am?

Lisa Chen[PH]:   Hi. Lisa Chen, ABC News. So I guess now we're inside of 72

                 hours before the storm may possibly hit. Have you discussed

                 with the mayors and the governors a time when people will ­ any



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                     time for the evacuation and the assistance that you'll be

                     providing and in terms of buses, trains, airlifting ­ that type of

                     thing?

R. David Paulison:   The transportation stops when tropical storm force winds gets to

                     that particular city you're evacuating. It's 39 miles an hour,

                     anything above that buses aren't safe on the road, ambulances

                     are not safe on the road. So that's how we start our countdown

                     backwards. We predict when we're going to have tropical force

                     winds and we go 72 hours back from there. That is 72 hours of

                     when you start that evacuation process. And all of the states did

                     that, all of the parishes did that, and they all did it at the same

                     time.



                     This was a coordinated effort that I had not seen before. You

                     know, you saw ... during Hurricane Katrina some parishes

                     evacuated and some didn't. Now they've all gotten together.

                     They've all agreed in what to do and they listened to the

                     governor, they worked with the mayor and the parish president

                     that came through the timeline and issued that evacuation notice

                     at the same time.



                     Mississippi did the same thing. Texas is doing the same thing.



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                     Now Alabama will be a little bit different because they're a little

                     bit further behind. But they're ready. They've already have

                     buses that are pre-positioned. And they'll be, based on the track

                     of the storm, they'll be evacuating their people out of the

                     southwestern of Alabama.

Unidentified Male:   Operator, we're ready to take questions from the phone line at

                     this time. Please identify the spokesperson.

Operator:            Yes. At this time if you would like to ask a question press star,

                     then one on your touch-tone phone. Our first question is from

                     Spencer Shiu[PH] of The Washington Post. Go ahead, please.

Spencer Shiu:        Hello. Thank you. One question for Mr. Becker. You talked

                     about asked for 107 shelters with the capacity of 40,000 in

                     Louisiana and having a capacity for more depending on when

                     state and locals could ask for it. What is the capacity that you

                     have for Louisiana? And the second question ... based on the

                     latest forecasts and modeling, do you expect Gustav to have a

                     greater or a lesser impact on New Orleans than Katrina did?

                     And on terms of a wave surge or speed of wind or the

                     measurement of a 100 year storm and in the latest judgment is

                     the current forecast to exceed the capacity of the levees? Or

                     below the capacity of the levees?

Joe Becker:          This is Joe Becker from the Red Cross and I'll take the first of



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               these questions. (LAUGHTER) In the state of Louisiana if every

               building that has been pre-identified as an available shelter or

               available for our use, we can do 68,000 people in that state. To

               the extent that we are not able to use buildings there, there are a

               variety of reasons why that wouldn't be able to happen with the

               condition of the buildings or what's going on with the buildings or

               just local factors. What this will cause is people to need to go

               further north.



               So, in essence, they'll be in their car a greater distance to find a

               safe shelter. And particularly for the city of New Orleans they

               have put together a great system where the citizens have a three

               digit phone number to call to tell them where the shelters are,

               what availability they have. So as the Administrator Paulison

               said, there's no reason not to be in a safe place tonight. And that

               safe place is not your home if you're in the city of New Orleans.



               I will defer the questions about the levees and the strength of the

               storm and the storm surge to people who know a lot more about

               that than I do.

R. David       Spencer, those are good questions. We are looking at the storm
Paulison(?):
               surge right now. And Bill Reed from the Hurricane Center is



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working up those slosh models based on a Category 4 or 5

storm. Texas is doing the same thing. As far as the levees are

concerned, I visited some of the levees yesterday, particularly

the 17th Street Canal. I saw some remarkable work they've done

there.



However there are weaknesses in the levee system. It is not at

the 100 year protection level. So that's why we're telling

everyone that we do not want you to stay in New Orleans during

the storm. We want you to evacuate. And whether the levees

hold, over top or fail, there is still a possibility of a tremendous

amount of rain. And Bill Reed was telling us today that because

this storm could slow down as it gets next to landfall, it could

produce a tremendous amount of rain. The city is capable of

handling an inch of rain the first hour and a half an inch of rain

every hour after that. And if you have a big hurricane dumping a

lot of rain, you're obviously going to get flooding regardless of

whether the levees hold or not.



So we don't want anybody to stay in the city. We want them to

evacuate. And we can come back in a couple of days and we'll

see whether the levees held or did not hold. But at this point, I



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                     don't to say it's irrelevant, but as far as people evacuating, I don't

                     think that's what they should decide on. They need to move out.

Unidentified Male:   All right. Good answer. Any more questions, Spencer?

Spencer Shiu:        No, sir. Thank you.

Unidentified Male:   Okay, thanks.

Operator:            The next question is from Jeff Bliss[PH] of Bloomberg News.

Jeff Bliss:          Yeah, hi. Director Paulison, I just wanted to double check this.

                     You said that Gustav is now a Category 5 storm?

R. David Paulison:   That's what Bill Reed, Director of the Hurricane Center reported.

Jeff Bliss:          Okay. And then also I wanted to understand, there hasn't been

                     much talk about Hannah. Has that been a complicating factor?

                     Is that adding to your preparation?

R. David Paulison:   Hannah is going to be very interesting. We are watching it very

                     closely. It is still disorganized. It is showing a little bit of

                     organization. But right now we're not sure exactly where it's

                     going to go and we're watching it very closely. And yes, it could

                     complicate factors. Remember three years ago we had

                     Hurricane Rita follow right behind Katrina.

Jeff Bliss:          Right.

R. David Paulison:   Which created some big issues for us. And so we're watching

                     this also. Not that that's going to do that, but it's obviously one

                     other possibility. So we're going to make sure ­ I've got to



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                     personally keep an eye on it because my home is in South

                     Florida. (Laughs)

Jeff Bliss:          (Laughs)

Unidentified Male:   Next question?

Operator:            Yes. Next is from Bill Holland[PH] of Platz[PH].

Bill Holland:        Yeah. Good afternoon, gentleman. Bill Holland from Platz Oil

                     Gram and Gas Daily. My question is in regard to the oil

                     refineries in St. Charles and St. Bernard's Parish. Three of the

                     four of them plan to stay open and continue operating. Do you

                     think that that's a wise idea? Or do you plan to encourage them

                     to move it along?

R. David Paulison:   Well, you know, I'm not an expert in oil refinery, so I'm not sure

                     whether it's wise or not. So I really couldn't answer that question

                     to tell you the truth. I'm sure that there are engineers and

                     experts who will make that decision, particularly now that it's a

                     Category 5 storm.

Bill Holland:        Thank you. That's all I have.

Unidentified Male:   Operator, next question, please.

Operator:            Yes, there are no further questions at this time. Please press

                     star, then one if you do have an additional question.

Unidentified Male:   We'll come back to the press briefly. We're open for any final

                     questions.



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Unidentified         After this over, are you ...
Reporter:
Unidentified Male:   Can we get two questions? (LAUGHTER) I'm kidding.

                     (LAUGHTER)

Unidentified         Why not? (Laughs) What ...
Reporter:
Unidentified Male:   Speak up, please.

Unidentified         Yes. After this is over, what means are being used to make sure
Reporter:
                     that people can get home?

R. David Paulison:   Unlike what happened in Katrina, we're tracking people and

                     where they go so we know how to get them back. So we'll know

                     that people are given specific shelters to go to. That 311 number

                     that particularly New Orleans is using, to call that and they'll tell

                     you based on where you live what shelter to go to. They actually

                     did a phased evacuation. So everybody wasn't on the road at

                     the same time. So they're keeping pretty good track of it. I'm

                     sure there will be some, a little bit of confusion with that many

                     people, but for the most part we should not have to end up like

                     we did with Katrina where it took us weeks to track everybody

                     down.

Unidentified         I'll follow up on that and maybe Mr. Montgomery can answer this
Reporter:
                     question or you, Administrator. In terms of housing after the fact,

                     people don't want to stay in shelters, what plan is in place?

                     There was a problem during Katrina getting people into hotels



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                     and apartments. How has that been corrected this time around?

R. David Paulison:   A couple of things. One, we have a much closer relationship

                     with HUD than we had in the past. We have been working

                     together. We have a system in place. We're working with the

                     [I/U] with Katrina evacuees. So we'll do the same type of thing.

                     They have a registry of houses, and I'll let him answer some of

                     that too, where we know where available housing is. We're not

                     going to use travel trailers unless there's something truly

                     catastrophic, we're not going to use travel trailers.



                     But we will use mobile homes. We have Katrina cottages. We

                     have Mississippi cottages. There's other alterative housing out

                     there. First we're we'd like to really put people is in apartment

                     buildings. That's the safest place to be. So we'll look at that

                     first. They may have to be put in motels and hotels originally and

                     then we'll move them into apartment buildings, hopefully we'll

                     have them identified those houses that are available for us.



                     So there's just not one magic bullet. There's a whole series of

                     things to make sure we get people some decent housing. We

                     don't want to end up like we did with Katrina, putting people in

                     those travel trailers. That was not a good place to live for that



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                     period of time. At that time it's all FEMA had in it's pocketbook.

                     But now we've got other options.

Unidentified Male:   And the Red Cross would like add something.

Joe Becker:          Another improvement post Katrina was a close relationship

                     between the American Red Cross and FEMA to have the people

                     from FEMA come to our shelters to help the people register in

                     the FEMA system. The quicker FEMA knows who they are and

                     where they are what their needs are, the quicker they can move

                     them out of shelters and into some sort of interim housing. And

                     so we've worked real hard on making it easier for FEMA to have

                     access to the people in those shelters should the people want to

                     come forward and speak with FEMA at that point.

Rear Admiral W.      I just wanted to add also relative to the National Housing Locator
Craig
Vanderwagen(?):      Service. This is something we developed post-Katrina working

                     with our partners up here. We currently have identified about

                     350,000 units of housing nationwide. Now the key thing is the

                     service isn't available directly to the public. We have HUD staff

                     that we would place in disaster recovery centers working with the

                     Red Cross and FEMA staff. They would then work with

                     evacuees to find some suitable housing beyond the shelter sites.

Unidentified Male:   We have time for one more question. Operator, do you have any

                     requests?



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Operator:       Yes. We have a few. We have from Anna Redelit[PH] of

                Gannett[PH].

Anna Redelit:   Yes. I'm sorry. This is ­ I have two questions; one, I want to

                make sure who, was it the Army Corps that answered the

                question about the New Orleans levees? And if so who, please,

                answered that question? And the second question is ... I forgot

                the second question.

R. David        (Laughs) Well the first question was David Paulison, the
Paulison(?):
                Administrator of FEMA just saying that regardless of what the

                condition of the levees are, people need to evacuate anyway.

Anna Redelit:   Oh, the second question. I'm sorry. I remembered my second

                question. Is anything being done to make sure everybody living

                in Katrina in the FEMA trailers is out?

R. David        Yes, we are ...
Paulison(?):
Anna Redelit:   Is there any special outreach to them?

R. David        Yes, we are personally contacting every person in a FEMA trailer
Paulison(?):
                or mobile home and telling them they have to pay attention to

                evacuation orders. And if they're told to evacuate to please

                evacuate immediately. The Governor of Mississippi did a

                mandatory evacuation for anyone in a FEMA travel trailer, a

                FEMA mobile home or a Mississippi cottage. That's what he has

                control over.



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                     The local emergency managers and mayors have issued a

                     mandatory evacuation for anybody in any mobile home or any

                     travel trailer or any type of manufactured housing. Those have

                     already been issued for people. Those are not safe places to

                     stay in a storm. And so that has been the mandatory evacuation

                     order.

Unidentified Male:   Operator, last question.

Operator:            Yes, Spencer Shiu from The Washington Post.

R. David Paulison:   That's four questions, Spencer.

Spencer Shiu:        (Laughs) I try to bunch them. Just a quick follow-up. There's

                     been some questions about the dirty side of the storm or is there

                     a worse side of the storm to be on? And if the current track

                     seems to take this storm west of New Orleans, is there any

                     sense that this could be again, at least in terms of the surge of a

                     greater impact than Katrina on the city? And secondly could you

                     talk about your interaction with the White House or with the

                     President and the National Response framework as the disaster

                     response groups stood up and talk a little bit about the process in

                     Washington in keeping the White House and other agencies

                     involved.

R. David Paulison:   Yeah, the Northeast quadrant of the storm is considered



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generally the worse, Spencer. That's where the highest winds

are and the most damage. Bill Reed from the Hurricane Center,

they're sticking on the same track that they had, but he said that

they would have a better idea of where landfall will bee once it

clears Cuba to see if it deflected at all one way or the other.



Obviously Mississippi and Alabama is worried it's going to go to

the right. Texas is worried it's going to go to the left. And so

we'll have to wait and see. Probably in the next day we'll have a

better idea of where it's going to make landfall. I have talked to

the President personally and briefed him on the storm and where

we are with the recovery. Secretary Chertoff and I personally

went down to Louisiana and Mississippi yesterday. The

Secretary is going back down again tomorrow. And I may go

down again on Monday depending on whether we can get down

there or not with the weather. I mean, sorry, yeah, tomorrow.

Yeah, or Monday. And so we've been very much involved in it.

Yes, the National Response framework is in place. And

everyone is following that guidance. And it's just been working

very well right now. The partnership developed under that is

exactly what we intended when we put it together, Spencer.




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               He got the three last questions in. (LAUGHTER)

Lisa Chen:     Honest. Honest. I think he means it. Lisa Chen, ABC. So, the

               very last question. During Katrina obviously one of the big

               problems that you saw during the coverage of it was security in

               terms of the New Orleans area. If you could speak to a little bit, I

               know a lot of National Guard has moved down there and has

               been put into place. What are the ways that you are trying to

               allow for that this time?

R. David       First of all, it's a local and state issue, not a FEMA issue, but at
Paulison(?):
               the same time having conversation with the governor, the

               governor made a decision to move 1,500 National Guard troops

               into New Orleans now. They're already in there now. Also the

               New Orleans Police Department is under very excellent

               leadership and they've hired a lot of police officers and they plan

               to be there throughout the storm to make sure that their city is

               safe. To ensure people that if they leave that their homes are

               going to be protected.



               And the governor, I know will watch this very carefully, that if

               there is any issue he'll put more troops in there. And we have a

               mission, some pre-scripted mission assignments we've put in

               place. And we have those in place to bring law enforcement



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                     officers in if they're needed. So we're ready to move on those if

                     something happens very quickly unlike prior to Katrina when

                     there were no pre-scripted mission assignments in place. And

                     we've already given out 131 mission assignments just for this

                     one storm to make sure that things are in place that need to be in

                     place and not have to try to run those down after the storm hits.

                     That's a good question. Thanks, folks. Good question. Thank

                     you.

Unidentified Male:   Just a follow up. For those of you on the phone, if you have any

                     follow up media queries, I urge you to call the news desk ­ 202

                     646 4600. Let me repeat that. If you have any follow up

                     questions or requests for information, please feel to dial the

                     media desk at 202 646 4600. Thank you very much. That

                     concludes today's briefing

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